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  • When does a Christian receive the Holy Spirit?
    Friday, 02 September 2005 @ 11:29 PM SGT
    Contributed by: kepha
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    Expressions The popular view amongst Christians is that the moment they put their faith in Jesus Christ, the receive the Holy Spirit. But this would make Paul's question in Acts 19:2 unecessary: "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?". I would like to hear views from any Christian in the forum.

       


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    Repentance and Saving Faith
    Authored by: Redeemed on Wednesday, 14 September 2005 @ 12:58 AM SGT
    Matt 3: 7 – 8; 11

    But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming for baptism, he said to them, “You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come ? Therefore bring forth fruit in keeping with repentance;…” …. As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire…”

    Acts 2: 37-38

    Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the Apostles, “Brethen, what shall we do ?” And Peter said to them, “Repent, and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”

    Acts 19: 1- 5

    And it came about that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper country came to Ephesus, and found some disciples, and he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said to him, “No, we have not even heard whether there is a Holy Spirit.” And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” And they said, “Into John’s baptism.” And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” And when they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

    Repentance in relation to the saving faith in Christ Jesus is like the flip sides of the same coin. You can see that the disciples mentioned in Acts 19 had little or no idea of the saving faith in Christ Jesus but they knew more about repentance called by John the Baptist. Only when they believed in the saving faith in Christ Jesus did they receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

    Fast forward to present times, we had the reverse. We had preachers preaching the statement that as long as you believed in Christ Jesus as in saying a simple prayer, you would be saved. The call to Repentance, the contrite acknowledgement of our sinful condition to the Lordship of Christ or from the death of the old man in us to the resurrection of the new man in Christ, is not mentioned. Don’t forget even the demons believed that Jesus is the Son of God. Years ago, Christians were ostracised from their community when they went for water baptism. Their non-believing parents and relatives knew it was a total commitment to Christ and a 180 degree reversal from their old ways.

    I have met several church goers who attended church service regularly for years but they refused to acknowledge that they have sins and that Christ Jesus is the ONLY Way. To them, the saving faith in Christ is only one of several ways. I have come to accept that such bizarre situation will happen during the last days. In a small survey done in the US recently, 68% of the evangelical Christians do not believe that Christ Jesus is the Only Way. The reason given by Newsweek is that today, most “Christians” believe in personal spiritual experience rather than the infallible teaching in the Bible. Perhaps that is why prosperity gospel churches can “flourish” even when they worship God and mammon together all the time.

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